Asea Scam Review – Are They Really Selling Over-Priced Salt Water?
Launched in late 2009, Asea’s primary product is a misunderstood nutritional supplement which is causing a lot of people to claim that Asea is a scam. When you look at the label, it’s easy to see why they’d think that since, well, the ingredients are Sodium Chloride and water. In case you didn’t do so well in chemistry class, Sodium Chloride is the proper name for salt.
Is Asea Really a Salt Water Scam?
Initially, my reaction was similar to many people in that I thought this product was just a slick way for Asea to package something worthless and sell it as a revolutionary new health supplement, but instead of stopping there like so many people do, I decided to see if there’s something to the scientific claims they were making.
Asea Reactive Molecules
The science behind their flagship product is based on two types of natural substances that are produced by the body called “reactive molecules“. These substances are used by the body to accomplish to main things:
- Slow down the body’s natural aging process by activating antioxidants that are already present.
- Support your immune system to aid in healing by helping repair your body’s natural cell damage.
As you can see, these substances are extremely important to the body in order to maintain good health, but through things like stress, poor nutrition, and everyday toxins we’re exposed to, the body starts to produce less and less of these vital molecules. Not good, right?
Where Asea came in is they took over 16 years worth of research into these molecules (aka Redox Signaling Molecules) and overcame the primary challenge of being able to produce stable molecules outside of the body. The result is a very interesting product that, as you can see, people are quick to refer to as some sort of “Asea scam” instead of taking the time to do some research.
Asea’s Leadership Team
When you’re reviewing a company like Asea, it’s important to take into account the experience of it’s leadership team to get an idea of their potential longevity as a new enterprise. ASEA’s founders, Verdis Norton and James Pack, bring a 50+ year combined history as high level executives in major corporations such as Kraft Foods and various companies in the telecommunications industry, respectively.
It’s unclear if they have any prior experience in the MLM industry which is something that I always look for in a company as well. There have been some instances of companies in the past who decided to get out of network marketing, and my opinion is that’s partially because when the corporate leadership doesn’t have industry experience, it’s easy for them to sit in a board meeting and say, “Let’s do something else!”. The last thing you’d want is to potentially lose a business that you’ve spent time and energy building.
Due to the nature of Asea’s products, I wouldn’t be too concerned about this happening.
Asea Compensation Plan Review
Asea uses a traditional binary compensation plan which means your business is built with two separate “legs” (sort of like an upside down peace sign). Every month you earn a 10% commission on the sales volume of the smaller leg with additional bonuses being paid out depending on your sales volume. These include:
- Retail Sales Differential (Difference between wholesale and retail price paid by customers)
- Preferred Customer Bonus ($25 every time one of your preferred customers purchases a case of product at the wholesale price of $120)
- Fast Start Bonus
- Director’s Bonus ($50 bonus each time one of your personally sponsored Associates achieves the rank of Director)
- Check Match Bonus
- Leadership Pool Bonus (ASEA reserves 2% of the total company sales volume for it’s top Associates)
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Lack of Real World Training May Lead to Failed Distributors Calling Asea a Scam
To be fair, the vast majority of network marketing companies provide the traditional MLM training of “make a list of all your friends and family, invite them to a hotel meeting every week until they join or stop taking your calls, then do it again.” It’s not that this system doesn’t work since that’s exactly how many of the six and seven figure businesses were built in the 70′s and 80′s, but the truth is this method isn’t the best approach for everyone. Yes, if you carry a lot of influence with your friends and family, this is a very effective way to build your Asea business.
Asea Is NOT a Scam
Where companies like Asea fall short is providing training on how to effectively market your business using methods like social media and the internet. My recommendation is to find a mentor who is successfully building a business online and offline who can show you what it takes to create an absolute dynasty for yourself and your family by using a real network marketing system.
(Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with Asea in any way and am providing my opinion that Asea is NOT a scam and is legitimate opportunity based on my 10 year history in the industry.)
To YOUR Ridiculous Success,
Brian Rakowski Network Marketing Coach 512-850-4857 http://www.MLM-Monster.comP.S. – Check this out if your upline doesn’t already have a complete turnkey system to help you generate a massive amount of leads for your business.
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Brian,
This is an excellent review. It is certainly easy to see where people could assume that Asea is a scam, but I think deeper digging sheds true light on the question.
Thanks again for taking the time to look at this company. Your insight and information will be helpful to many people I’m sure.
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I just wanted to say that when I talk about how asea is working on my body its not just what I “HOPE”, When I started asea I found a doctor that is skilled in cell biology and electronic medicine and Acupuncture,
He is a hand full of people in Canada & U.S that can do bio-terrain testing and he tests for these things on a monthly basis: urine, saliva – electrical conductivity ~ salts resistivity, my physiology, PH – acid/alkaline – biochemical speed/resistance,electron activity/rh2 ( glutithione production ) Surface tension on my cells ( membrane dynamics) – if I am ~ anabolic or catabolic, energy production – beta oxidation, tricarboxylic acid, protein utilization, plus other cell activity, He also sees me once a week to check vitals and update my general energy levels and eating habits and organ energy among other things. He has told me that I am healing at a incredible speed, On a cellular level. When I did my first test I was not even on the scales. I can tell you that not only am I experiencing the change in my health I am seeing it in real time, All of these tests are to see at what state of homeostasis my body is in, He tells me that I am almost there and in such a short time. There is no other reason for my recovery but for the fact I have been using asea for the last 6 months. Also remember that when I first started seeing him I had just stoped a heavy regiment of drugs that were prescribed by a number of doctors for years, That had left me in a very unhealthy state body and mind. I was also taking 13 different vitamins and have stopped all of these including vit c and milk thistle. I have hep-c and did the experimental hep-c treatment 5 years ago. This medication was designed to poison my cells and stress them to the point that they would give up the virus ~ it did exactly what they designed it to do, except get rid of all of the virus. Every last person that did the test was left in dire need except about 10 percent of the people that cleared. I tried everything and anyone to try and bring my health back for the last 3 1/2 years, But there was no help for me and the others that were left this way. I just wanted you to know that my recovery is not just a “WISH”: So when I say that’s asea works for real : Its REAL !!!!
Hi Dave,
It was a great share.
I would like to know your health practionner so that I could take the same test that you passed.
Thanks
Gil
Gil,
Do you live in Canada ?
You will need to find a doctor that is a skilled Acupuncturist and can read all vitals not just the big 3 and has training in Spinal Adjustment, Herbalist/Supplements , Biological Terrain Testing, Anatomy, Physiology.
You will need to look hard as there are not too many doctors with these credentials. Good luck with any health issues that you are facing
ASEA is a head scratcher since it is sodium chloride in distilled water,REdox molecular research has been ongoing for many years.Having read hundreds of patents when I got curious was it a scam or real.sodium Chloride is use in medicine.when your hot and running Salt is the preferred beverage in moderation. If they used Sodium to cross link with Chlorine you still get only a Sodium Chloride.I am trying to figure out.How sodium chloride in distillate water can create a rejuvenation of the cells without input of other ingredients.I saw several path ways of building a molecular product good for health.which has not been tried with the use of Biochemical salts.With when I do the formula I could say yup I have anew health product.But Sodium Chloride with Distilled water.I have my questions about it efficacy except as a mind power over coming by faith the destruction of age and other things.
Brian,
For more information why not contact the Atomic Physicist involved.
http://www.AskDrGary.com does a sufficient job at explaining what’s involved and the molecules involved. I can tell you that it’s not as simple as cross-linking sodium with chlorine.
Cheers,
Ben
I didn’t find Dr. Gary’s site very convincing. NaCl (aka salt) dissolves in water into Na+ and Cl- ions. That and H20 are all they have to work with in order to make these “redox signalling molecules”… so what is the molecular formula of some of them? Of one of them? (note that that there is virtually NO mention of such molecules in the scientific literature… look that phrase in Google Scholar and you’ll only come up with 10 papers, none of which have anything to do with what’s in ASEA water).
I am quite convinced that ASEA water is nothing but a scam, and a particularly brazen one at that.
Dear Darren,
The patents for ASEA can be found if you research MDI-P (the original name for ASEA when it was being developed by a pharmaceutical company.) Let me set the record straight on this product… The “saltwater” is indeed salt water. Don’t forget salt water is two words. The truth is is that the salt water in the product is what keeps the molecules stable. The molecules are not listed on the ingredients list because they can’t be. They are composed of about 3 atoms. Now to set the record straight on the science behind redox signaling (ROS) molecules; the company that was doing the research on MDI-P (now known as ASEA) spent about 9 years researching this coming out with quite a few press releases about how the product has “surprising anti HIV capabilities.” Now since this product is now under the “natural” category all the research that was conducted cannot be used to validate ASEA. The FDA says so. If you want to research ASEA don’t type ASEA into google. Type redox signaling and or ROS molecules.
Your review is useless. You repeat what is in the Asea marketing documentation. To answer your title question, there must be EVIDENCE of effectiveness. You have only stated your opinion. I have been drinking Asea for eight months and I have not experienced any healthful effects — and four 32oz bottles cost $140.
Please give us the links for scientific, double-blind studies that prove Asea has health benefits. I have never found these studies, but some must exist. No? Asea does have extensive documentation on the theory of how it might work — but a description is not proof; and testimonials are not proof. While you may not be affiliated with Asea, you have the conflict of down-line marketing.
At the moment, I feel that I have paid a lot for expensive salt water. I hope you will post those links.
Hi Mahfaan,
Thanks for your comment (I think….). Sorry to hear that you didn’t find what you were looking for with my review, but it seems like you’re looking for more specific “proof” when it comes down to the science behind Aseas’ products, whereas my review is more geared towards the people who are reviewing Asea as a potential business opportunity.
I recognized immediately that there was potential for some concern regarding their flagship product which is why I included some resources with regards to the science behind it. As you pointed out already, I’m providing the review as my opinion only and am not affiliated with the company in any way.
Think Asea is terrible? Great, don’t join or buy the products.
Think it’s the best company ever? Great, go tell the world!
For more information on the science behind the products, my suggestion is to review the information that Ben just posted above, contact your Asea distributor (or Asea directly) for more information, and worst case, request a refund according to their refund policy.
Hope that helps you find what you’re looking for!
Brian
Dear Mahfaan,
Sir, You are down right liar. You used Asea for 8 months ? There are over 60 people that are using Asea with me here in Edmonton, Alberta. Not one person that has been taking Asea properly can not say that they have not had a complete change in there health. From injuries to chronic disease. I have encountered people like yourself in the past that are trying to protect there down lines for their miracle creams or juices. This technology is totally new to the public
and in a class all of its own. There are 65,000 articles on redox signaling that are accessible to the general public. I can tell that you never took
2 minutes to try and understand what science has been working on for the last 13 years.
Asea is being used in 20 countries now and is expected to double in the next year. Medical professionals from all over the world are learning and being retrained to understand this new scientific break through in health maintenance.
Redox signaling is real and even a person like yourself is alive as we speak because your body is making these molecules now as you sit there in your cloud of ignorance. Your body just does not make the required amount after the age of 12 years old to stop the aging and disease process. Do you really think that the FDA would have granted 25 patients on the chemical reactions that take place to make Asea,
if the company could not prove it. Sir, You are an idiot.
I can only think of one word that sums up your comments on Asea. You are a ( Cartoon ) !!!
I joined the navy to see the sea…but what did I see I see Asea.
Hey Jim,
Alright, even though it’s probably the most random comment I’ve seen here so far, I’ll admit this made me laugh.
Thanks for stopping by!
Brian
I’m wondering about the absorption of ASEA. Does stomach acid affect or break it down b4 it gets into the blood stream? I mean is it equivalent to idiots who take pro-biotics/enzymes as a dietary supplement not knowing that HCL in the stomach destroys them b4 they actually enter bloodstream.
Hey D,
That’s a good question. I’m not sure, but my thought is that it would have little to any affect on it. My reasoning is that things like pro-biotic and enzymes are actually “live”, so a harsh acidic environment like the stomach is going to destroy much of them pretty easily. My understanding is that the reactive molecules aren’t actually living organisms, but I can’t honestly say that I know the answer for sure.
If anyone has a link to any scientific studies that Asea has conducted, I’m sure many people would find it helpful!
On the topic of pro-biotics though, you’re absolutely right. It’s great to think that you’re taking a supplement which claims to have billions of live microflora, but if they have to go through the stomach unprotected, many of them are going to die before they reach where they need to be (read: the colon).
That’s exactly why the pro-biotic I take personally is “triple-encapsulated for targeted release”…
Thanks for sharing, D!
Brian
ASEA is absorbed quickly through water absorption channels in the soft tissues of the mouth, esophagus and stomach lining. The Redox Signaling molecules in ASEA are able to survive the harsh acidic environment of the stomach for several minutes. Traces of residual Redox Signaling molecules have been found in the blood hours after ingestion.
This lady came to my business with a binder full of “before” and “after” photos and testimonies from people she’s introduced ASEA to over the past year. Sure, everyone looks much healthier in the after-Asea photos, but I wanted some medical study statistics. She said that ASEA has had studies conducted by an independent company and that she’d e-mail them to me. That was 3 weeks ago and I’m still waiting… Can’t find anything online either.
Oh well, when something really unique and miracle-producing really does come along, it will probably will not be sold via MLM channels anyway. Word would spread so fast, the company wouldn’t need to “push” it into the marketplace in this manner.
-Allen in Chicago
Hi Allen,
I haven’t seen any studies either, but I didn’t do a hardcore search other than on the Asea site and a quick Google search. I’d be interested in taking a look if anyone has a link to them!
When it comes down to products needing or not needing to be sold via MLM, it varies completely. There are awesome products that ultimately go under because the word of mouth just doesn’t spread fast enough or truly drive someone to purchase without additional education. Think about the last time you heard about a great product from something that’s not an advertisement. Many people will hear about a product, get interested enough to at least have the intention of looking into it, but they ultimately never end up doing anything because either life got in the way, or there’s additional education needed to justify the purchase and no sales rep to help them.
That’s why products like Asea’s do well in an MLM model. They usually get a built in customer base in the distributors who can then turn around and provide the additional education necessary for someone to spend $80 on the product. That wouldn’t happen in a Walmart.
On the flip side, there’s many products and services that don’t need an MLM model.
People don’t need an independent distributor for toilet paper and run of the mill, everyday purchases because they already know that they need them, they’re inexpensive, and there’s easy access to many options of similar quality. That’s one reason why many of these start up companies who pitch everyday products and services typically don’t last. The downward price pressure makes it impossible to sell a water filter in the long run at a cost that allows the distributors AND the company to be profitable, so inevitably the company drops their reps which built the business, 99% of their customers jump ship, and the company winds up in bankruptcy. Excel Communications is a prime example.
Anyways, thanks for stopping by Allen!
Brian
I’M WILLING TO BUY SOME IF IT REALLY WORKS. ANYONE HERE HAS A BOTTLE TO SELL ME? NEWPORT BEACH, CA. I CONTACTED THE CO. AND NO ONE ANSWERS MY VOX MAIL. KEVIN PORTER CALLS ME BUT HE’S IN SANTA CRUZ. I WANT TO GO TO A DEMO.
Hey Jenna,
Sorry to hear that nobody is getting back to you! I checked out the Asea site, and it looks like you can’t really search for a distributor by location other than contacting the company as you already did. If you don’t want to go with the guy who’s calling you, maybe he knows someone that is more in your neck of the woods.
Worst case, there are other options in the anti-aging market from many reputable companies. it’s a good practice to request the results from any peer-reviewed scientific studies to make sure that you’re getting your money’s worth, and that the company has a good return policy if you’re not satisfied. I’d be happy to make some recommendations if you can’t find anything that interests you.
Thanks for stopping by!
Brian
The patents for ASEA can be found if you research MDI-P (the original name for ASEA when it was being developed by a pharmaceutical company.) Let me set the record straight on this product… The “saltwater” is indeed salt water. Don’t forget salt water is two words. The truth is is that the salt water in the product is what keeps the molecules stable. The molecules are not listed on the ingredients list because they can’t be. They are composed of about 3 atoms. Now to set the record straight on the science behind redox signaling (ROS) molecules; the company that was doing the research on MDI-P (now known as ASEA) spent about 9 years researching this coming out with quite a few press releases about how the product has “surprising anti HIV capabilities.” Now since this product is now under the “natural” category all the research that was conducted cannot be used to validate ASEA. The FDA says so. If you want to research ASEA don’t type ASEA into google. Type redox signaling and or ROS molecules.
I did the hep-c experimental treatment and this how it left me
My feet where always cold, I could not go out in the sun or take any temperature over 76 degrees and if it was i would start getting panic attacks ,I could not bend over without getting dizzy, If i did not eat every 4 hours i would feel light headed and would have to lay down. I was having blatter & prostate problems and had been on 4 different meds from my GP and it would just come back, I was having kidney pains from the extreme stress the hep-c meds put on my liver, To the point that a lot of the time i thought it was my lower back, my finger tips had been cracking all the time for years, My nasal passage was always bleeding in the morning, My eyes were yellow from the hep-c, I had 4 liver spots on my face, My lymph nodes were swollen from the hep-c meds to the point of pain, I was having extreme breathing problems (Advair Inhaler)~ not helping, Bleeding and soar gums and bad breath, I was on tranquilizers, Ativan, Prozac for
Depression, I had 0 energy, naps everyday, Arthritis in all major joints, I had a very bad sleep problem that would just add to my other problems. I started using asea on dec 27/2010. 4 days after I started asea my depression went away and my body aches followed very quickly. I was on medication for all of my medical problems AND i have not used any medication for 8 months now, asea is the only thing plus a few vitamins that I think I need. All of my medical tests shows that things have turned around for me and i just keep feeling more fantastic.
HI PEOPLES I LIVE IN AUSTRALIA WHERE CAN I BUY ASEA CAN SOMEONE SUPPLY ME WITH A CONTACT NUMBER THANK YOU
They are not open in that market yet, Sorry to say. You will need to find someone that would be willing to have it shipped to them and then redirect to you and that could get expensive Tom.
Riddle me this: if ASEA nee MDI-P is such a “miracle cure” why did Medical Discoveries, Inc. abandon it and turn their “medical drug” into an MLM product?
Hey Riddler,
Asea could not be sold as a drug due to the inability to obtain an LD-50 (lethal dose) since ASEA is native to the human body. However, multiple pharmaceutical companies have made $100+ million dollar offers to buy the technology and patents, including Barr Pharmaceuticals and Johnson & Johnson. ASEA is a health-related product, not a disease-related product.
Oh ya, The riddler is a great name for a joker like yourself
Can we buy the salt and use water and do it outselves.
Let me know, I need to try it and it would fall so much cheaper, because some people cannot afford to pay that sum of money